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Phoenix, 24 Upper East Smithfield, Aldgate E1

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At 16 Upper East Smithfield in 1851 & earlier

A listing of historical public houses, Taverns, Inns, Beer Houses and Hotels in Aldgate - St Botolphs, London. The Aldgate , London listing uses information from census, Trade Directories and History to add licensees, bar staff, Lodgers and Visitors.

The following entries are in this format:

Year/Publican or other Resident/Relationship to Head and or Occupation/Age/Where Born/Source.

1826/Stowell / Victualler /../../../Sun Fire Office Records, held at Guildhall Library *

1839/John Maxwell/../../../Pigots Directory ****

1841/Jno Maxwell/../../../Post Office Directory ****

1842/John Maxwell/../../../Robson’s Directory **

1851/Wm Richard Maxwell/../../../Post Office Directory ****

1856/Wm Morgan/../../../Post Office Directory ****

In 1857, Edith Emma Morgan was born here (she was the daughter of William Simeon Morgan Vic.) He is a visitor here in the 1861 census - widower (this is William Simeon Morgan), He is later at the New York Stores ***

William has brothers Alfred B Morgan at the Royal Oak, and Edward Morgan at the Three Crowns ***

1861/Frederick Soames/Victualler/32/Mendlesham, Suffolk/Census
1861/William Morgan/Victualler, Visitor, Widower/34/Abargavenny, Monmouthshire/Census
1861/Ann Hale/Cook/70/Ilington, Hertfordahire/Census
1861/James Crane/Barman/21/Bristol, Somersetshire/Census
1861/Margaret Hayes/Housemaid/18/Woolwich, Kent/Census

1866/F Soames/../../../P.O. Directory *

1869/John Goy/../../../Post Office Directory ****

1871/John Goy/Licensed Victualler/42/North Hypeham, Lincoln/Census ****
1871/Elizabeth Goy/Wife/42/Lincoln/Census
1871/Anna E Goy/Daughter/15/St Georges East, Middlesex/Census
1871/John Rd Goy/Son/12/St Georges East, Middlesex/Census
1871/Ellen Goy/Daughter/10/St Georges East, Middlesex/Census
1871/William Goy/Son/6/St Georges East, Middlesex/Census
1871/Joseph Goy/Son/4/St Georges East, Middlesex/Census
1871/William Kempton/Servant/42/../Census

1882/Jno Maxwell/../../../Post Office Directory ****

1882/John Goy/../../../Post Office Directory ****

1884/John Goy/../../../Post Office Directory ****

1891/John Goy/../../../Post Office Directory ****

1891/Frederick W Gill/Publican/35/Lambeth, London/Census ****
1891/Augustus E Gill/Son, Barman/13/Wandsworth, London/Census
1891/George E Willers/Barman/19/Stepney, London/Census
1891/Walter H Swainson/Barman/15/Bermondsey, London/Census

1895/Edward Wm Harris/../../../Post Office Directory ****

1899/John Sanders/../../../Post Office Directory ****

1903-1909/Ernest Edwin Askins/../../../.. **

The "Phoenix", 24 Upper East Smithfield was run by our great grandfather Ernest Albert Askins in 1903, 1904, 1905, 1906, 1907,1908, 1909. Possibly he had taken over the pub a year earlier. Unfortunately we do not have the legal proof as all the local magistrates records for this period have been lost. **

When Ernest Albert Askins died on the 20th March 1909 the licence was possibly taken over by his second wife Mimi Mary Askins whom he had married in 1904, after his first wife Margaret died; or by his eldest son Ernest Edwin Askins **

We believe that Ernest Edwin held the licence until Ernest Edwin's youngest brother Sidney Askins could take over the licence around 1911/12 We are not sure of the actual transfer date because of the loss of the local magistrates records. After leaving the "Phoenix" Ernest Edwin Askins and his wife Elizabeth then moved out of London to take over the "Albert" in Witham. Here again the Essex Magistrates records were lost so we don't know the exact take over date. **

The Phoenix was destroyed during the war and now, no. 24 is a pharmacy. **

When our grandfather Ernest Edwin Askins reported his father's death to the authorities in 1909, he gave his address as 115, Curtain Road, Shoreditch. This is the address of the Marquis of Cornwallis. Now, whether he ran this pub or was just staying / working there we do not know. **

As far as we know he moved away from London to Fen Ditton, Cambridgeshire sometime after September 1904. Certainly in May 1907 he was running the "Plough" at Fen Ditton. The exact length of his stay at the "Plough" we have not yet researched. By March 1909 he had moved back to London, to the Marquis of Cornwallis. **

In 1902 the PO directory gave Ernest Edwin Askins as the LV of the Watermans Arms, 92, Wapping High Street. He had moved there from the Town of Ramsgate which, at that time, was being run by his father Ernest Albert Askins and before that by his father in law, Thomes Willets. **

1910/Ernest Edwin Askins/../../../Post Office Directory ****

1914/James Batchelor/../../../Post Office Directory ****

1915/James Batchelor/../../../Post Office Directory ****

1921/Sidney Askins/../../../Post Office Directory ****

1934/Mrs Grace E Daines/../../../Kellys Directory ****

1938/Mrs Grace E Daines/../../../Post Office Directory ****


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